‘It’s not looking good for him, is it?’

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Lets start with the obvious question: Is John Thackery dead?

CLIVE OWEN:It looks that way [laughs].

Clive Owen, The Knick

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Its not looking good for him, though, is it?

EW: Does this mean there will not be a third season ofThe Knick?

That was the thing we talked about.

note: Cinemax told EW that Soderberghistalking with his writers on how best to proceed.]

So its definitely something that happened at that time.

CO:I thought it was genius I thought it was perfect [laughs].

But how much of this was he really doing for her?

He believes its that something he can pull off, but he also has a self-destruct mechanism in him.

Hes always pushing himself to a place that he defends as right.

And I think its a mixture of all of it, really.

EW: Do you think he had a death wish?

Throughout the season, hes been haunted by boththe little girl who died from the blood transfusionand by Abby.

CO:I think there is an element in that, yeah.

Since weve seen him in the very beginning, hes somebody whos prepared to go very far.

Hes taking enormous risks to make these discoveries.

In his situation, there is an arrogance, but also, hes aware of the risks involved.

He knows that if he tries something that is possible to pull off, its hugely risky.

CO:I think that that was the journey.

And when thats taken away, we see how hes in a really bad place.

Did you have a favorite surgery?

CO:The separation of the conjoined twins.

The writers had done their research and found out that the first time that happened was in 1901.

But the beauty of all those operations is that theyve all been really thoroughly researched.

This is what was happening at the time.

CO:I think all of them.

The stories go outside of the hospital and into the lives of these people.

I just, I love the spread of the whole thing, really.

EW: Had you even heard of Thacks conditionischemic bowelbefore?

CO:No [laughs].

EW: How did he describe it to you?

CP:He just told me it would be extremely uncomfortable extremely painful.

EW: Did you ever think youd ever be talking extensively about your characters bowels like this?

CO:[Laughs].

How do you recover from an incident like this, both personally and professionally?

CO:I wouldnt have any idea.

But, you know, the beauty of this show is, I think its so unpredictable.

But at the heart of it was this completely original, unpredictable character.

And weve kept that ball in the air until now, and that was a joy to play.