It was a sign that their big pop experiment had worked.

Swift would go on to reference it during recording sessions for1989.

Kylie Minogue and Carly Rae Jepsen cited the group as inspirations.

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Katy Perry even took them on tour.

It really encouraged us, Sara Quin says of the bands success.

I just dont feel those hesitations or obligations.

Add Kurstin, This time we felt liberated to go wherever we wanted to go.

With a new sound came new subject matter.

Im not a victim.

Im often times the bad guy.

Its a topic neither could have addressed if their sibling relationship wasnt so healthy now.

Theres a perspective we didnt have when hated our band and wanted to abandon each other, Tegan says.

Their complicated bond is a running theme throughout the album.

(I dont need a ring to prove that youre worthy …

I dont need a white wedding, Sara sings.)

We own a business together, we own property together, our songs are like kids, Tegan says.

Fittingly,Love You to Deathfound the two working together more closely than ever.

The challenge for us was, can we make a pop record without a village?

It reallyisa Tegan and Sara record.

Eight albums in, thats a great place to be.