His initial tribe got decimated, but then he found himself in a position of power after the merge.

That put Jason back on the bottom.

How much of his sabotage was just sour grapes?

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Does he regret his treatment of Alecia?

We asked him all that and more.

He wanted to keep it as his little secret.

He really kept it from us.

We had assumed it must be an idol or something.

It was an extra vote, but that extra vote didnt really help, now did it?

On why he voted for Joe instead of Michele:

I knew Tai didnt have the numbers.

Cydney was really close to both those sides.

So I stayed true to myself and voted who I thought should have left.

On why he wanted Joe to leave:

[Joe] and I didnt always get along.

I respect him in his day-to-day life, but out there on the island, we didnt mesh well…

He was just over at the fire all the time burning all the firewood.

That was pretty much Joes story between that and sitting on a bench.

On why he gave Scot his immunity idolbeforeTribal Council:

I was safe.

I knew I was safe.

I still believed in Tai and he was safe.

I didnt see Tai just handing his idol over right away.

I wanted my alliance to feel safe and feel comfortable and thats why I gave it to him.

Now, in hindsight, that was probably my worst decision out there.

But it is what it is, you cant do nothing to change it.

So thats what helps me hold my head up about giving it away.

But again, it wasnt probably my best decision out there.

Its currently around my daughters neck.

She wore it to school today.

Scots the one that put out the fire and I loved it.

I absolutely loved it.

I would watch him do it every single day.

Im guilty by association.

Im part of that group and I stand by that group.

There was gameplay to that.

I treated this game like a business.

And thats what I was trying to do.

I took nothing in this game personal.

Im very happy with the edit.

Im very happy with the way I was portrayed.

When it comes to her and I, we obviously dont get along.

I think she is a good person at heart, but certain personalities just dont mesh.

Well, you dont win friends right away by saying that statement five minutes into this game.

And every day it was something else.

I was young and immature at one point too.

I stand by what I did.

I stand by my actions.

I dont consider myself a bully.

Just because I dont sugarcoat things to other people is because Im a brash person.

You got to think about the life I live and the shoes I walk in.

I dont have time to make everybodys feelings feel good or hold your hand and make you feel better.

I do that enough with my own children in life.

Im a very harsh person.

Ill tell it like it is.

And somebody finds that Oh, youre a bully.

I took a lot of heat for the idol thing when we ran into each other.

I give it to her because shes a girl?

That wouldnt be fair toher.

I think she handled that great and she was a very fierce competitor out there.

She would go toe-to-toe with me anytime and a lot of props to her on that.

She was a strong individual out there; we just didnt get along.

I have no hate towards her.

I think shell do just fine in life.

But I think a lot of people viewed it the way they wanted to.

(The Jason Survivor interview starts 23 minutes in.)

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