Alvey and Jay Kulina dont have the typical father-son relationship.

(Translation: Hes not always great at showing up to his fights on time… or sober.)

Its the last wisps of, Can you be my dad?

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And when he doesnt, its this really liberating thing.

Because finally I dont have to have these expectations.

And then to finally just be able to let it go.

I finally, totally see how he sees me.

And I dont have to be concerned with this anymore.

And once Jay lets go of those expectations for his father, it opens up a world of possibility.

I think thats whats going to be interesting moving forward, Tucker says.

The ground has been raised in some respect.

I have no expectations of him being my father, so I have no allegiance to anything anymore.

Not in a bad way.

Im not mad at anybody about it.

It is what it is.

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