Lets check out this space, man!

Im in a creative zone!

When Rubin clarifies Lamars meaning Should we go inside and record?

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the MC simply replies, Exactly.

Beyond the possibility of a collaboration, Lamar shares other interesting tidbits with Rubin in the conversation.

When Rubin asks Lamar about thejazz aestheticof 2015sTo Pimp a Butterfly, the rapper provides a fascinating answer.

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He was like, Man, a lot of the chords that you pick are jazz-influenced.

You dont understand: You a jazz musician by default.

And that just opened me up.

And he just started breaking down everything, the science, going back to Miles, Herbie Hancock.

Hancock praised Lamar in Genius annotations, which footnote the story.

Rubin also asks whether Lamars next album will continueButterflys aesthetic or forge a new path.

The best answer I can give you, um… That was me then, Lamar says.

Itll always have some key in of DNA in my music.

But me, as a person, I grow.

Im like a chameleon.