[SPOILER ALERT: This story contains plot details fromBetter Call Saulsseason 2 finale, titled Klick.
Enter the land of Salamanca at your own risk.]
But then it became clear that the Chuck part of the equation workedtoowell.
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(The worst nightmare for someone suffering from electromagnetic hypersensitivity?
Probably a CAT scan.)
Chuck acquiesced, and then asked him: You do realized that you just confessed to felony?
To which Jimmy flippantly replied: I guess, but you feel better, right?
Besides, its your word against mine.
), so he spared a life.
And then … a car horn in the distance.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Jimmy is in quite a jam now, thanks to the con artistry of his brother.
VINCE GILLIGAN:Yeah, but what he did was technically not illegal.
I think thats the black-and-white way he sees the world.
Its about he faked being sick.
This is a guy whose mental acuity is absolutely key to his identity.
He cares more than anything about the fact that his brain works.
But boy, did it work.
GILLIGAN:And by the way, we agree with you.
Were just telling you what Chuck thinks.
[Laughs] But yes, it was a pretty sleazy move.
But then honestly, the move that Jimmy did before that was pretty sleazy too.
So these two are in a vicious spiral, as they say.
GOULD:Theyre down in the mud.
On a scale of a 1 to 10, how effed is Jimmy right now?
GILLIGAN:[Laughs] Were not sure ourselves.
Were plugging away at season 3 and theres a case to be made that hes indeed pretty effed.
GOULD:But then theres an alternate case that maybe hes not.
[Laughs]
GILLIGAN:Were trying to figure that out.
GILLIGAN:Well, theres an old writers room saying: Dont write past the ending.
How long was this con?
GOULD:To me, when I watch the episode, the moment is very clear.
Jimmy leaves and Chuck pulls the space blanket back over his shoulder and goes out to the garage.
At that point, it looks to me that he is a man on a mission.
Maybe I can use that love against him.
When I talked to Bob Odenkirk about the finale, he said, Chuck is a fing asshole.
Jimmy does some things that if I were Jimmys brother, I would have a problem with as well.
He is not abiding by the strictures of the New Mexico Bar, to say the least.
And hes not being a particularly great lawyer a lot of the time.
But his heart is in the right place.
I feel sorry for him because hes kind of damaged.
That deep level of envy he feels toward his younger, prodigal brother.
We thought we were seeing the end of Jimmy McGill at the end of last season.
Could this be the fall of Jimmy McGill and will Saul rise from these ashes?
Without a doubt, it feels like Chuck is about to make some really big move against Jimmy.
These brothers have suffered such a rift already whats the next step?
At what point does Jimmys love, respect, and caring for his brother become permanently broken?
GOULD:I think folks can definitely think about: Who writes a note that says DONT?
Thats one of the things we talked a lot about.
Its a very interesting approach to stopping Mike from shooting Hector.
Of course, the fast way to stop Mike would have been to simply kill Mike.
GILLIAN:Or make a run at.
GOULD:Or to make a run at make an attempt.
GILLIGAN:Fair assumption.
[Laughs] Yeah.
GOULD:I think weve tipped our hand.
GILLIGAN:Yeah, I think we have.
I think we did last night onTalking Saul.
Right now, this is a guy Im talking about Gus Fring who often works very indirectly.
This is not somebody who is not easy to access.
Is Kim [Rhea Seehorn] willing to go further down the Jimmy rabbit hole to help him here?
And/or is she going to wind up as collateral damage in the brothers struggle?
GILLIGAN:Maybe its neither.
It doesnt have to be either/or.
I will say, people are rightly asking: How come we dont know about Kim onBreaking Bad?
And these are all questions we ask ourselves every day.
And how far is she willing to go and will she become collateral damage?
These are excellent questions that we are addressing every single day.
Were trying to figure that out, and were glad people are asking the same questions we are.
Now that the dust has settled, who was the actor and what was the context?
GILLIGAN:So we killed our darlings as Faulkner might have said.
GOULD:It hurt, though, because we miss Betsy.
So she might return down the road?
GILLIGAN:Anythings possible.
We love her, we love our key players fromBreaking Bad.
Wed love to see all of them, selfishly speaking.
