Jimmy McGill admitted that he transposed a 6 and a 1, and now his brother has his number.

And if you thought Chuck radiated negative energy toward Jimmy before watching Klick, you know much more now.

(Her last words were Jimmy and Jimmy.

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More festering fodder for Chuck.)

What was he doing at that copy shop?

Chuck did, and then asked Jimmy if he realized that he had just copped to a felony.

I guess, but you feel better, right?

Slippin Jimmy was just out-slipped.

Yes, the situation involving the brothers McGill just turned electric, and we are surging with questions.

Turns out, hes not a big fan of Chuck right now.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Theres been a pretty intense game of sibling rivalry chess especially over the last few episodes.

At the end of the episode, did we just see Checkmate?

BOB ODENKIRK:[Deep breath] Man, thats a good question.

Im not saying there arent any more moves to make, but as far as…

I dont know what can happen next.

I dont know how Jimmy keeps his law license.

I dont know how he doesnt get disbarred.

He doesnt, though, because Saul has a license, we assume.

Jimmy probably cant talk his way out of this one.

You and I talked before about Jimmy gettingcloser to the edge of becoming Saul.

How close are we now to transformation?

The thing you have to remember is everything I say is conjecture.

I think that itll take a day.

Itll be one day where he goes, Okay, thats it.

Im going to be one ofthoselawyers, and the reasons for that are numerous.

What was your first reaction when you read that scene?

Dont you just want to go, Hey.

I give up.'

As much as I love Michael McKean, Chuck is a fing asshole.

Hes a fing asshole.

You really need to do that?

And hes got to win at all costs.

I mean, really its Chuck who has to win at all costs.

How much of Chucks descent in this episode was a ruse?

It was a combo platter of real and fake.

It was his anxiety just run amok, but it was fueling his crazy plotting.

He was genuinely relieved to finally have an excuse to put up his walls of Mylar [laughs].

Thats what will break my brother down.

I will show him my sanity has been taken and I will use that against him.

I guess if he really loves his brother, he might say Okay, I have this tape now.

Dont f around anymore.

But I dont think thats what hell do.

That was my next question: We dont see Chuck show Jimmy that he has proof of his crime.

Or do you think hes already got a plan in place?

I think hes got a plan in place.

He takes people into account.

Its a sty thing your brother did.

But we dont need to take him down.

Lets just move on.

It can be the dumbest thing.

I can use his sympathy for me and what Im going through.

Because ultimately, he always comes through.

He always comes back.

I mean, Jimmy checked in on Chuck even after everything.

So thats sort of a deeper motivation for Jimmy than anything else.

Its just his feelings for his brother.

When do you think he hatched the plan to record Jimmy?

I think when Ernie left the hospital room after saying, I called Jimmy.

He just couldnt allow that to be true.

He cant allow any of this to be true.

That he was fallible, that he had made that mistake numerous times over and over.

So its all kind of real, and its all kind of put-on.

And then I got nothing to lose.

If I pull this and he doesnt admit to it, well, then I really am over anyway.

Do you think that Jimmy even realizes that he did something horrible by switching the numbers on the address?

I think he would just perceive it as just Chucks going to be so peeved.

But I think what hes realizing is Chuck can give up on life.

Hes going to quit the law and hes going to basically let himself die or something.

And he was blinded by the fact that he was doing this for someone else.

It wasnt just for his own gain.

This was for someone he loves.

But he knew it would really get Chuck right where he lives.

And Chuck had sabotaged his legal career before previously, so it was fair game maybe.

Oh, for sure.

Of course, Im on Jimmys side.

Well, a lot of people are.

Oh, boy, Im surprised they are.

Ill be honest with you.

I think people felt like Chuck deserved it.

Kim deserved Mesa Verde.

It was sty that Chuck even took it.

So in the end, Chuck is getting his just desserts, but yeah, you better watch out.

Dont underestimate Chuck, man.

Will she be willing to go deeper to help him out here with the recording?

Is she about to enter her biggest moral dilemma yet?

And is she going to wind up as collateral damage somehow?

Boy, those are the questions!

Those are the questions I have too.

I cant answer it.

I think shes growing up.

She was a student.

She was so thankful to be given this opportunity to become a lawyer.

What was Jimmys plan if Ernie didnt cover for him?

That was a sort of leap of faith.

I dont think he had a plan.

He does that fairly often.

I dont care about anything else.

I dont care about me.

I dont care about what this looks like.

I dont care about justifying it.

Ill get out of the quagmire somehow that this creates, because Ive got to save my brother.

So I think that hes pretty good at flying by the seat of his pants and he knows it.

I dont think he had an answer.

And he also he kind of had cover.

I think youre right.

And thats certainly Kim and also Howard, I think.

I really do think Howards kind of caught in between them too.

He just doesnt hate Jimmy on anything like the level I dont think he hates Jimmy at all.

Chucks the ones whos all wrapped up in it.

So the people in between them are the question of what happens, more than anything.